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Re: Barbara Aho, Which Bible is Your Final Authority?
Barbara Aho will be our guest
today on The Berean Chronicles----She will be on to discuss the
KJV Bible Controversary! We hope that you can listen from 1-3
central time and that some of your questions will be answered!
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Re: Barbara Aho, Which Bible is Your Final Authority?
Barbara Aho wrote:
"Gail hedges her recommendation of Kabbalists with a disclaimer,
“…just because esoterics see in letters ‘gods’ that are not
there, this should not deter true scriptural and scholarly
investigation into the word of God.” (p. 1116)
The entire quote that Barbara referenced is below. Gail warns
against the Kabbalah:
The internet can be a real "web." Be careful to limit your study
to that of verifiable science; avoid mystical New Age
information tht counterfeits the truth of God (e.g. Kabbalah).
They "changed the truth of God inot a lie" and even worship
God's creation (Rom. 1:25); esoterics have their own nonsense
meanings ascribed to letters; these should be avoided. But just
because New Age vegans worship 'mother earth' is not reason to
quit eating vegetables. Likewise, just because esoterics see in
letters 'gods' that are not there, this should not deter true
scriptural and scholarly investigation into the word of God. (p.
116)
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Re: Barbara Aho, Which Bible is Your Final Authority?
New Age vocabulary is found in
the New King James Version
excerpt from:
http://www.ekkcom.com/gail14.htm
My remarks are in brackets.--Lisa
"There are a lot of New Age renderings in the New King James.
They consistently substitute the term “the Christ” for “Christ.”
Liberty University’s dean, Norman Geisler, says, “We should be
particularly wary when someone refers to Jesus Christ as ‘the
Christ.’” The worst component of the New King James is its use
of the term, “the One,” capital O-n-e, for the masculine pronoun
“he.” This word gives credence to the monism, pantheism, and the
neuter god that is so prevalent in the New Age movement. The
February edition of Pat Robertson’s Christian American magazine
quotes one of the new version editors. She boasts of her
“monism” and refers to “god herself” as the neuter One, capital
0-n-e. She believes that God is a female god and a neuter kind
of a god. So when we see the 0-n-e in the New King James,
instead of “he,” the masculine, we are moving away from the
historic God of Christianity to this monistic neuter god. We
also see this monism in the New King James in John 4:24. The
King James says, “God is a Spirit.” The New King James says,
“God is Spirit.” Now we know that there are plenty of spirits
that are not God; the NKJV makes similar changes in Revelations
15:3."
"The most frightening thing that I found in the NKJV was its
rendition of Luke 7:19—20. The King James says, “he that should
come.” The New King James has dropped “he,” capitalized
“Coming,” and capitalized “One,” and says, “the Coming One.”
They do not know what this is and I suspect they were deceived
when the devil got them to put this in there. The New Age and
Luciferian matriarch, Alice Bailey, has a chapter in her book
entitled “The Doctrine of the Coming One.” Who is her “Coming
One”? Let me read what she says:
”Humanity in all lands today awaits the Coming One.... Let death
fulfill the purpose of the Coming One.” (The Reappearance of the
Christ, pp. 64, 188)"
[The Left Behind series chose to capitalize the word one which
gave person of the Lord Jesus Christ a New Age flavor: "'He is
the only One who could be the Messiah,' Chaim proclaimed."
Desecration p. 231]
"Now Christians know who this “Coming One” is. Second
Thessalonians 2:9 says it is the Antichrist, “him, whose coming
is after the working of Satan.” By using the title, “Coming
One,” that is so pervasive in New Age literature, the New King
James is giving us that “common vocabulary” once again that we
really do not want to see in our Judeo-Christian bible."
"Another example of the retrograde nature of the New King James
is its Jehovah’s Witness readings. They have taken the historic
title of the Holy Spirit, the “Comforter” (John 14:16) and
changed it to “the HeIper.” The Jehovah’s Witness bible has
always called the Holy Spirit “the helper” there and elsewhere
because they do not believe the Holy Spirit is a person. They
believe the Holy Spirit is a wind or a force, or something like
that, something that just sort of helps God. So now the New King
James has the identical rendering the Jehovah’s Witness bible
(The New World Translation) has had for years and years and
years."
[The NKJV changes the Holy Spirit from Comforter to Helper. A
guiding spirit will help the New Ager do the will of the Coming
One (New Age 'Christ') but this spirit is not the comforter.]
http:www.libertytothecaptives.net
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Re: Barbara Aho, Which Bible is Your Final Authority?
The Semitic New Testament
The Plot To Replace The Greek New Testament
by Barbara Aho
http://www.watch-unto-prayer.org
On her page scroll down to BIBLE VERSIONS
and then click on the above article to read.
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Re: Barbara Aho, Which Bible is Your Final Authority?
I would beg to differ from most
of the respondents on this particular thread. As a matter of
fact, the NKJ OT is about the best translation of the OT out
there. As far as the NT is concerned, it is translated from the
TR, and, in fact, is a better translation of the TR.,than the
KJV. There is not ONE verse missing from the NKJV as compared
with the KJV. So, i really can't get all the hoopla over this.
If people don't 'like' the NKJV, then there is also the KJVER,
the KJ2000, the MKJV, and soon to be issued KJ3(formerly LITV).
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Re: Barbara Aho, Which Bible is Your Final Authority?
Your post mentions an upcoming
KJ3 'version' of the Bible. Considering Barbara Aho's comment on
Kelly's radio broadcast today that the King James Bible is not a
word-for-word translation, it is interesting that you mentioned
the KJ3, which is advertised as a word-for-word translation:
"This is what the King James Version was meant to be, an exact
word-for-word translation of the Hebrew and Greek texts."
http://www.sovgracepub.com/bibles/LITV2005.htm
Does this mean that this is a 'set up'? Did Barbara Aho send you
here to promote the KJ3 (a word-for-word translation) in order
to reinforce what she said on the radio broadcast?
I doubt it.
The way things appear to be may not be the way they actually
are.
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Re: Barbara Aho, Which Bible is Your Final Authority?
I have never heard of the KJ3 so
I decided to find out what I could about this reported
word-for-word translation. Below is Galatians 1:1:
Paul, an apostle, not from men nor
through man, but through Jesus Christ and
God the Father,the One raising Him from
the dead, KJ3
The KJ3 states that God the Father, the One is (present tense)
raising Jesus Christ from the dead.
Quote source:
http://www.sovgracepub.com/bibles/KJ3-2005/KJ348Gal.pdf
Warning: Excerpts from the KJ3 may be read here but beware of
Calvinist materials and doctrines.
God is the Holy One and the Just One but he is not the One. The
One is the name the New Agers use for their 'Christ.'
The KJ3 also erroneously states that God the Father, the One is
raising Him [Jesus Christ] from the dead.
The real Bible (King James) says that God the Father raised him
[Jesus Christ] from the dead:
Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus
Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead) KJV
Jesus was raised from the dead over 2,000 years ago and is
seated at the right hand of the Father. He is not currently
being raised from the dead.
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Re: Barbara Aho, Which Bible is Your Final Authority?
I can assure you that I have no
personal knowledge of Barbara, nor did she 'send' me here; nor
am I 'promoting' the KJV3. In fact, I haven't even seen it yet.
I've been waiting approximately seven(!) years for my copy to
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Re: Barbara Aho, Which Bible is Your Final Authority?
geo 27 wrote:
"I have been reading the back and forth E-Mail which has made
for some very,to say the least intresting reading.Lisa should
have went with her friend that sent the E-Mail,and spoke with
Barbara before going public of this form.Also when one of the
members of this form sent Lisa a PM she again went public with
the reply."
I tried to communicate with Kelly via email regarding Barbara's
remarks about the King James Bible not following the Textus
Receptus in all places. I deleted my inbox to make more room and
do not have the two letters that I wrote directly to Kelly about
this matter.
I did save an email that I wrote to Martin in answer to his
question about my position on the David Bay situation. I
included my concerns about Barbara in this email, which she read
as soon as it was forwarded to her. She did not reply to me
about this matter. This email was sent to Kelly and David Bay as
well.
You can read that letter in the thread that Kelly started
called,
"Understanding Lisa Ruby's Nit picky attack on Aho."
[Note: I made a hyperlink to the 'Nit picky' thread when
I uploaded these files to the Liberty To The Captives website]
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