Someone mentioned the movie Conspiracy Theory on another thread yesterday? saying it was about the ACLU. My opinion was that it was about the CIA's MKULTRA, so I spent some time checking it all out, and refreshing my memory about Frank Olson [Olsen]. This morning I was reading about Phoenixmasonry (from a link at the official Mount Vernon site), and the similarities between all of this are striking.

These people are a little 'different', and I don't want to offend their copyright, so please see the two paragraphs under 'The Origin of the Phoenix As a Symbol in Phoenixmasonry.' (particulary 'She burns that she may live'). http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/historypage.htm

[You might also want to look at http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/faq.htm .]

Now reading some links at this page: http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/contents.htm , I ran into some interesting items:

CHAPTER FOUR
The Clearwater Hearings
[note the non-care of ill members]
Also:

'Ray went on to express his profound resentment at the treatment he had received: "The thing that really kills me about this whole . . . operation is... by the questions they ask and the things they do, they open you up to your innermost personal self . . . you're extremely vulnerable .... They pick you up and they'll raise you so high you feel like you're on top of the world and, then, they'll drop you and they'll let you feel like a bottomless pit .... And those are the kinds of terror and searing emotions that go through a person's mind when they're there .... They want to leave; they want to help themselves. You get physically tired. Sometimes you don't even have time to take a shower. Ninety percent of the people that walk around there just - they stink."

Ray inevitably ended up on the Rehabilitation Project Force. His account of it is horrifying. The RPF lived on a diet of Leftovers including wilted lettuce which was beginning to rot, and cheese with mold all over it. One day, they were given french fries, and while eating them Ray discovered that one of the potatoes was in fact a fried palmetto bug. From that point on, he used his weekly pay of $9.60 to buy cookies from a health food store. It was all he could afford.' A lot of what I've been reading about Hubbard and Scientology members conjure up what I was reading about the drug-induced mind-control subjects of MKULTRA. On another page:

'...Hubbard claimed that his interest in the human mind was sparked by a meeting with one COMMANDER THOMPSON when Hubbard was twelve. According to Hubbard, they met during a trip through the Panama Canal en route to Washington, DC. Thompson was a NAVY DOCTOR, with an abiding interest in psychoanalysis, supposedly "a personal student of Sigmund Freud." From Thompson, Hubbard "received an extensive education in the field of the human mind." In a 1953 publication Hubbard claimed that his "research" began when he met Thompson. 7 The claim has the romantic ring of Hubbard's pulp fiction.

Commander "Snake" or "Crazy" Thompson (as Hubbard called him) is something of an enigma. Neither Shannon nor Armstrong discovered anything about him. During the Armstrong case in 1984, Scientology Archivist Vaughn Young at least proved "Snake" Thompson's existence. Young had spoken to Thompson's daughter, who attested her father's love of snakes. A library catalogue listing several papers by Thompson on the subjects both of snakes and the human mind, and a postcard from Freud to Thompson were produced. His death certificate showed that he had indeed been a Commander in the U.S. Navy...' http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/bs2-1.htm


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'commander snake thompson psychiatrist'
Possible origins for Dianetics and Scientology
by Jon Atack
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:1OwwtAE2nJgJ:home.snafu.de/tilman/j/origins6.html+commander+snake+thompson+psychiatrist&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

This is downright creepy, because it has very ancient, occult roots. Some excerpts:

'SOURCE
The key concept in any argument relating to Hubbard's plagiarism is that of "source". In the early days, Hubbard expressed a debt to other thinkers. For example, there are a number of references to Freud and Breuer in his 1950 lectures. Hubbard also initially credited U.S. Navy doctor Commander Thompson...'

'WHAT IS TRUE FOR YOU IS TRUE
Speaking of his childhood mentor COMMANDER THOMPSON, Hubbard said "that's a very unusual thing to do, to take a 12-year-old boy and start doing something with the mind ... He used to tell me 'If it's not true for you, it's not true' ... and he got this from a fellow named Gautama Siddhartha." (48). While the original statement by the Buddha is not referenced, it may well have been this far more eloquent appeal, from the Kalama Sutta, "Believe nothing on the faith of traditions, even though they have been held in honour for many generations, in many places. Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it. Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past. Do not believe what you yourself have imagined, persuading yourself that some god inspires you. Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters or priests. After examination, believe what you yourself have tested and found to be rational, and conform your conduct thereto." Alexandra David-Neel (a possible source for much of Scientology) quotes from a Buddhist Sutra: "Be your own guide and your own torch" (49).

"DIANETICS"
The word 'dianetics' is a variant of 'dianoetic', the earliest recorded usage is given as 1677 by the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary. A group called "Dianism" was started shortly before "Dianetics". The founder of this group was a U.S. Navy lieutenant who had studied the works of Aleister Crowley. Dianism centred upon the eighth ritual of Crowley's OTO - the "magical masturbation". Curiously, this was the ceremony performed by Hubbard with OTO leader Jack Parsons in 1946. It seems eminently possible that "dian" refers to "Diana", the Roman goddess, who in turn was seen by Crowley as the "dark goddess" - the Empress, Hathor, Artemis, Shakti, or the Babylon, or "Scarlet Woman", of the Book of Revelation. Hubbard's ceremonies with Parsons were intended to incarnate this very force. Hubbard called his first daughter by Mary Sue Hubbard, Diana. He also renamed one of the Sea Org vessels the "Diana". (50)


'MAGIC SYMBOLS - RITUAL MAGIC
Many of the symbols of Scientology were taken from ritual magic. Hubbard was a member of the AMORC Rosicrucians in 1940 and performed sexual "magick" ceremonies with Jack Parsons, a follower of Aleister Crowley, in 1946. The Scientology cross is very similar to the Rosicrucian and Crowley crosses. Hubbard also used the "daleth" triangle of the Egyptian destroyer god Set as the Dianetic symbol.

The theta symbol used by Scientology is the central symbol of Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis, where it denotes "thelema" or the will. It is the symbol of "Babalon", the antichrist that Hubbard and Parsons tried to incarnate. The "S and double triangle" motif of Scientology probably derives from the black magic use of the SNAKE symbol (the "wise serpent" or Satan) combined with a deconstruction into two triangles of the Star of David (rather like hanging the Christian cross upside down to signify devil worship). This symbol - the magical hexagram - was used by Hubbard and Parsons during their attempts at incarnating the anti-Christ in human form. Again, Hubbard shares the double triangle with Crowley, where the triangles stood for the "Argentinum Astrum" or "Silver Star", a name for Crowley's organization prior to his take-over of the Ordo Templi Orientis.

Crowley's order - the OTO - had a common origin with the THULE group to which several members of the NAZI hierarchy belonged (including deputy party chairman Rudolph Hess). *The sig rune - used by the Nazis - appears on the Scientology International Managment Organization's symbol - a red square enclosing a white disc and set off by four such sig runes. *The swastika of the Nazi flag has been replaced by the Scientology "S and double triangle". The symbol of the Religious Technology Center is surrounded by sig runes. As far as I can ascertain, the sig rune is otherwise peculiar to the Nazis. (60)

Crowley's notion of "the will":

"The original definition of Scientology 8-8008 was the attainment of infinity by the reduction of the apparent infinity and power of the MEST [Matter, Energy, Space, Time] universe to a zero for himself, and the increase of the apparent zero of one's own universe to an infinity for oneself ... It can be seen that [the] infinity [symbol] stood upright makes the number eight" (61). Which is to say, the essential idea of Scientology is to raise the power of the individual's will or intention to "an infinity". This aim is held in common with all magical systems (Cavendish quotes Crowley "the Great Work is the raising of the whole man in perfect balance to the power of Infinity", The Magical Arts, p.5). The exercises used in the attempt to achieve this - especially those in The Creation of Human Ability (some of which were on the original "OT 5" course) - are ritual magic disguised as therapy. (62)

DEMON POSSESSION
The current "OT" levels deal almost exclusively with "body thetans". The idea that human beings can be infested with spirits is common to most religions. As examples, such "attached spirits" are called "DEMONS" in Christian literature, "dibbuks" in Jewish literature, "jinn" in Islamic literature and "gDons" in Tibetan literature. In the gospel of Luke, for example, we find the following: "For Jesus was ordering the unclean spirit to come out of the man. Many a time it had seized him ... Jesus asked him, 'What is your name?' 'Legion', he replied. This was because so many devils had taken possession of him." (63). (64)

The method used to deal with these "body thetans" on the "new OT 5 course" is surprisingly similar to that employed by Chicago University professor Eugene Gendlin in his "focusing". The "OT 5" materials were published with a very limited distribution starting in September 1978. Gendlin's book was also published that year.'

In regard to DEMONS, there is an interesting note here:

'...The result was an album called "The Road to Freedom," which was released that night.

The record was made by Scientologist musicians, with Hubbard supervising at long distance through taped messages. Hubbard wrote the lyrics, which are peppered with Scientologese. They provide an insight into his state of mind at the end: "There was a worried being who did secret acts/He felt he had to hide, hide, hide, hide, hide"; or, as a confession about the OT levels perhaps, "In olden days the populace was much afraid of demons/And paid an awful sky high price to buy some priestly begones .... Oh now here is why that makes the world an evil circus/NO DEMONS AT ALL BUT JUST THE EASILY ERASED EVIL PURPOSE."

"Thank you for listening," the last ditty on the album, sung in a rumbling growl by Hubbard himself, takes the form of a "thank you" to attack his detractors: "For truth is truth and if they then decide to live with lies/That's their concern not mine, my friend, they're free to fantasize." ...' CHAPTER FOUR Dropping the Body http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/apobs/bs8-4.htm

And then there's this. I don't know what to make of it yet; this is all going to take a while to digest. Hopefully, you will find some of this useful.

'...In Anti-spam Psych Info Letter #1, we discussed William Alanson White (1870-1937), the famous psychiatrist that reviewed Hubbard's "innovative experiment" at the George Washington University. Dr. White was the superintendent of D.C.'s St. Elizabeth Hospital, a government hospital for the insane. White had a close association with Hubbard's "mentor", Commander Joseph Cheesman (Snake) Thompson.

Scientology considers psychiatry to be Public Enemy #1. Hubbard injected into his doctrine the idea that psychiatrists are reincarnations of the evil priests throughout the history of this universe who evilly implanted people to trap and enslave them. This bit of science fiction justifies Scientology's vitriolic attacks against psychiatry, especially as through the Scientology front group called "Citizens Commission on Human Rights."

Scientology intends to utterly destroy psychiatry as part of their takeover plan. They wish to replace psychiatry with Hubbard's version of Dianetics and science fiction FREEMASONRY....' Read the rest. '...My plan, therefore, has been that the medical student should be exposed to psychiatric teaching throughout the four years of his medical course and then when he gets through he will be in a position to know whether he is interested in this specialty or not; and P$YCHIATRY, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR FIFTY PERCENT OF THE BED$ THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY, will have at least an equal show with the other medical specialties in attracting students....' [I bet you can find the Rockefeller name in all of this - Rockefeller, Death By Injection- Rockefeller is connected to Robert Wood Johnson. It all goes round and round. It is mind-boggling. As Texe Marrs says, if someone tells you they don't believe in conspiracy, tell them they are ignorant; brother, I love ya, sister, I love ya, but you are stupid. I'll go one farther. They are either ignorant, or part of the conspiracy.]
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:_a_3cqcTK4AJ:www.holysmoke.org/cos/psych-info2.htm+commander+snake+thompson+psychiatrist&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

'....Dianetics_ itself is the statement that "many schools of mental healing from the Aesculapian to the modern hypnotist were studied after the basic
philosophy of dianetics had been postulated."5 Alfred Korzybski, Emil Kraepelin, Franz Mesmer, Ivan Pavlov, Herbert Spencer, and others are mentioned as resources in _Dianetics_, so we must assume Hubbard was crediting these people to some degree. He must certainly have known, then, of at least some of the research from his time which will be mentioned in this article. Hubbard in
other settings acknowledged Sigmund Freud (especially through COMMANDER "SNAKE" THOMPSON),6 Count Alfred Korzybski,7 and Aleister Crowley8 as contributors to his ideas on the human mind. ****In a speech in 1950, Hubbard stated that he had spent much time in the Oak Knoll Naval Hospital medical library in **1945 during a stay for ulcers, where "I was able to get in a year's study."9 ....' http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache:7shN55dCWaUJ:www.discord.org/~lippard/Arizona_Skeptic/AZ_SEP91.5-2+commander+snake+thompson+psychiatrist&hl=en&ie=UTF-8


MUST SEE: ACID DREAMS TIMELINE http://www.levity.com/aciddreams/timeline.html According to the timeline, the CIA was not formed until 1947, but it is well known that the US imported NAZI doctors and scientists after WWII. Askel5 is well familiar with it and would be able to provide a link.

1951 - Captain Al Hubbard turns on to LSD:

'.....Dr. SIDNEY GOTTLIEB the CIA's chief sorcerer-scientist, ran the Agency's Technical Services Staff and oversaw the super-secret MK-ULTRA program, which sought to develop LSD into a mind control weapon and also experimented with numerous other drugs and behavior control techniques.'



'Richard Helms CIA director from 1967 to 1973, was a strong advocate of secret behavior control experiments; he described LSD as "dynamite." '


'Captain Al Hubbard the American superspy and uranium entrepreneur, became the first Johnny Appleseed of LSD, turning on thousands of people, including scientists, politicians, intelligence officials, diplomats, CHURCH FIGURES, and housewives. "If you don't think it's amazing," said Hubbard, "just go ahead and try it."
Links to further Al Hubbard sources.

'George Hunter White a high-ranking US narcotics official who tested LSD on unwitting American citizens at the behest of the CIA. "It was fun, fun, fun," said White. "Where else could a red-blooded American lie, kill, cheat, and rape with the sanction of the all-highest?"' MUST SEE THIS LIST OF WHO'S WHO A Who's Who of Acid Dreams http://www.levity.com/aciddreams/whoswho.html

Reading between the lines, it does make one wonder why NO ONE in authority steps in to stop the lawlessness in Terri's case. Pretty strange, no? It's pretty much overwhelming for us without God's help.

Secret societies and mystery religions [and false prophets] (See Judges 18:19 - but the hidden things will be revealed) are how the devil has been gathering all nations to him for at least 3,000 years. We as individuals and as a country of God's people need to be getting right with Him and praying without ceasing. See http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Hab/Hab002.html#5 , then go back and read Hab. 1 http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Hab/Hab001.html .

Psa 46:10 Be still, and know that I [am] God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

Zep 1:7 Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord GOD: for the day of the LORD [is] at hand: for the LORD hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests. [hope, hope.]

Hope I didn't mess up your thread.

cyn, I loved your posts about Jesus.

64 posted on 07/07/2004 6:19:39 PM PDT by Ethan_Allen (Gen. 32:24-32 'man'=Jesus http://www.preteristarchive.com/Jesus_is_Israel/index.html)

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